1 ) 旅游结束
虽然但是,星尘斗士这篇题外话太多了,台词也不行,尽管卡牌眼花缭乱,反派替身使者却大多被自己作死,真是傻的尴尬。 但是,爱一个人是不需要理由的,比如找优点这块,起码咱也跟着JOJO他们外出旅行了不是吗。 队友这块是个亮点,每个人都有各自的特质,但是最后抗大力的永远是JOJO,不觉得很伤伙伴吗嘎嘎,有机会还是单打独斗的好。 要我说迪奥这个叼毛,真的是福大命大,经常留点渣复活作妖,也许作者太爱他了,不过我可不想再见这家伙了,埃及篇我要看到他永远的绝望。 来吧埃及篇!
2 ) 只能看两集
见过的最垃圾的动漫,没有之一,先不说为什么主角在监狱中也能拿到外界的东西,就说和那个叫阿布德尔的战斗的时候,尬的要死,一直不知道说些什么,监狱的铁栏杆也自己断掉,而且人物总会莫名其妙摆出奇怪的姿势,喊一些奇怪的东西比如“砸瓦鲁多”之类的话,很难不让人怀疑这是洗钱用的,角色也会莫名其妙受伤突然飙血,在下半部分中,那个叫迪奥的家伙喊了砸瓦鲁多之后动漫就干脆停止,一直动不了,暂停什么的也没用,直到10多秒之后才能继续播放,而且很多东西像是瞬移了一样突然出现,真的不知道这么尬的动漫为什么能有这么高的分
3 ) This anime is so GAAAAAAAAAyRRRRRRR
Stardust Crusaders (2014) is Jojo's Bizarre Adventure : the Animation (2012)'s sequel. But if you think about it seriously, there are a thousand things that are different between the two seasons, and which make undoubtedly SEASON 1 > SEASON 2. To some extent, you could speak of a DIFFERENT anime.
I took a quick look on the reviews of other websites a moment ago : senscritique (barely), anidb (clearly) & anime news network (surely) all agree with me on which season is better, only douban doesn't and that can be explained easily : the community of douban does not understand SHIT to anime. All hail anidb !
Since I consider Jojo's Bizarre Adventure the Animation (2012 = season 1) as the best shounen anime of all time, this review is mostly going to be a comparison between the two, a comparison between the Master and the student.
Characters : Stardust Crusaders' has the worst Jojo so far. His look is definitely GAR, but the "R" in here is getting too much closer to an "Y". The chain on his neck, the hat on his head and that stupid cape make his design far less enjoyable than the two first ones.
Personality wise, he is an empty shell, and this hurts even more since they had 24 episodes to develop him, whereas they had far less for the two previous Jojo's who had to share out the 24 episodes.
When the two first Jojo's had a few first episodes to lay down some background (usually without much fights or as an appetizer) and stories in order to introduce the protagonists, their values & skills (honesty & raw force for the first, naughtiness & smartness for the second), this one only gets the bare minumum. The end result is that there will be no empathy for the character during the whole show. This 3rd Jojo's has almost no dialogue lines : he looks cold, avoids to talk, does the job (i.e. the killing) when necessary and contains all his emotions. The "Yare yare" (Good grief) that he keeps on repeating in every circumstance is DEFINITELY not cool...
This goes to the extent that we might at some point doubt who is the main character... since this one does not get so much attention when the stories unfolds, & the creator focuses more on the other characters. This is also a big difference with the first season, in which one Jojo's is the boss & the others are only there in a support (Zeppeli the teacher) / secondary (Zeppeli the descendant) / commentary (Speedwagon) role and usually end up dying or beat up.
In Stardust Crusaders, there are actually TWO Jojo's simultaneously. One plays the role of the Dark Powerful Silent Protagonist and the second of the Experienced Funny Talkative "secondary" character. + 3 other characters that actually get a lot of attention and a bit of development (especially Polnareff) : Avdol (the Wise & Temperate guy) whose Stand skills are Power & Fire, Kakyoin (Common Sense & Stabilising member of the group) whose Stand skills are Flexibility & Variety, Polnareff (the Silly & Funny guy with whom the viewer will often adopt the subjective point of view : i.e. Avdol's death) and whose Stand skills are Precision & Velocity. Of course the characters are created so that there is an Equilibrium & Complementarity in the group, and so that no one is powerful enough for overtaking the Protagonist's role. Classicaly, who will face the new bad guy depends on the powers that they each have, and on how powerful is the enemy. Sometimes they will face altogether some enemies which is pretty cool in terms of interaction and symbiosis.
Development (structure & fights) : Far less epic than Stardust Crusaders for many reasons. One of them is that there are too many enemies (representing for some weird reasons a card in the Tarot game, which is not adding anything to the show - except perhaps selling the fucking cards later ?). On average, each new enemy has a two-episodes span life, including half an episode of silly jokes and progress in the map, a cool or stealth entrance, the fight lasting 1 episode with a couple of predictable twists and then a conclusion with everyone being happy and teaching the bad guy a good lesson. It's almost a pokemon-like structure... The worst is that Dio never appears in any fight... He is far away "waiting" for the characters in the darkness, raping bitches and looking strong & cool with the Jojo's family star on his back. This again reminds a lot of the old european cartoons of the 90's, in which the main antagonist keeps sending small fries without moving his ass, while he's posing and showing his best evil laughter. The show is structured in a way that we know at each episode that the bad guy is going to get his ass kicked and that a new one is coming next and so on... If the characters were not road tripping from Japan to Egypt and if we didn't know that opponents are limited in number (Dio will necessarily run out of those FUCKING Tarot cards), the anime would have been simply BORING. Hopefully the road trip enables to see different settings and is helping for building the jokes (toilets in India, 讨价还价 in Arab countries, rigorous rules in Singapore etc...). It goes without saying that the MYSTERY of season 1 (related to the Mask, to the ancient cultures evil forces etc.) is completely absent. In the first season, the stakes were generally much higher : badass & super dangerous enemies (including Dio and the mask's embodiments) with some depth & backstory would show up and give a real hard time for the protagonists (causing heavy injuries, deaths and big emotional fuss). In Stardust Crusaders, everything is too easy and taken lightly. Except once, all superficial injuries disappear at the end of the fight and, opponents come one by one and end up begging for their lives without any dignity.
And that leads us to one of the main points of this review : if you think about it in another way, one could argue that Jojo's is less of a shounen with serious fights than a funny comedy with loads of gag (adding the traveling adventure aspect, and it starts having a couple of common points with One Piece). This is not necessarily a critique, since the show is REALLY super funny, but mechanically less Epic and thrilling.
Other aspects : Aesthetically speaking, IMHO the first season's added effects were clearly better and engaging. They would for important moments, freeze the picture for a "cool phase" and add layers of colors and geometric forms all around in order to emphasize a situation and making it classy, usually during fights. This technique has sadly almost been abandoned in this anime... I thought it was brilliant in the first season. In the same spirit, moments when the colors of a given setting would start to beautifully distort and change are also less common in the sequel. The sceneries depicted were also more elaborate and beautiful in the latter.
Otherwise the animation of this sequel is really well-made, even though the artistic value is a bit inferior to the predecessor.
The music (including OP and especially the masterpiece song for the ending) is not as good as season 1 but still fits what's happening in the screen overall. The references to the rock n' roll & heavy metal world are also very rare compared to the first season, since the creators focused their references into general knowledge (geography, cultural aspects and bit of history) while describing the place where the characters stopped during their road trip.
Wish they do a sequel with more epicness, and with DIO !!!!!!! for God's sake.
4 ) 简短观后感
终于,在第三遍观看后,方才体会到了一个个硬汉面孔后鲜活的灵魂:看了三遍为之落泪了三次的Iggy。最后舍身救友不是所谓的狗的忠诚,而是在自由意志驱使下的无怨无悔的牺牲。“野狗也有高贵的灵魂”,荒木再一次将“黄金精神”的定义扩展至一切可能的存在,将这一理念一步步移下神坛,展现其在世界万物之上的普适性。能思考到这一层也是我对荒木极其佩服的一点。//花京院典明则是新·心动对象(前提是重温前看了很多同人图get了其美貌ww)。刚柔并济,观察敏锐,又极有行动力,处刑曲「高潔なる教皇」也好听到不行。//人狠话不多的承太郎,老当益壮的二乔,重情重义的波波,老成持重的阿布,也都为这部壮烈史诗留下了浓墨重彩的一笔。
然后总结为什么看了三遍才被征服。。。
1⃣️替身系统还处于开发阶段,荒木终究没有能够如后几部那般,凝练地展现每个替身的能力和魅力。众多互相矛盾、或是有用完即丢的设定、缺少首尾相连的合理性,着实遗憾。
2⃣️“百年恶人”Dio前期各种烘托强大魅惑冷静高傲,但最终一战属实失态。过度的嚣张不仅造成ooc,还让最终一战缺少了“宿命之终结”的悲壮感。
3⃣️人物统一硬汉画风,五人一狗中唯一的“美人”花京院看着非常鬼畜,人物特点没能通过画面很好地传达(幸亏平川大辅声音拯救),观感大打折扣。
4⃣️后期节奏有问题,三番两次在感人情节后无缝衔接搞笑片段,令人恼火。
5 ) 肌肉兄贵们的塔罗牌冒险
这一部是讲jojo3的,jojo2也是主要配角。
故事构架是迪奥复活了,jojo3因为命运之轮的推动必须打倒迪奥。
我本来以为这一部能打迪奥,结果24集的内容,jojo3一行人从日本走到埃及,就打了7张塔罗牌,连迪奥的面都没见到。
这一部的波纹(我琢磨着波纹就是中国道教说的“气”)进化成了替身,这替身跟圣杯战争召唤的英灵类似。每个人根据自己波纹的不同的特质,能召唤出不同类型和能力的替身,然后互相战斗。
我个人觉得3的内容比1、2有趣。
然后,我深刻地领会到了荒木的恶趣味,“猫狗之友”(但凡出现猫狗,那就没有一个不被虐的),“荒木到底经历了什么”(各种恶心离奇的脑洞,reoreo都算了,其中最让人卧槽的就是印度猪厕所,还有典明粥)。
最后,妖娆的肌肉兄贵们终于踏上埃及了。
期待jojo3和迪奥相遇。
最后,因为迪奥的脑袋是迪奥,身体是jojo1,又是在埃及嘛,所以有弹幕说它是jo身雕(迪奥)面兽。莫名地戳了我的笑点,笑得肚子疼。
这还真是一部奇葩的作品,一开始嫌弃,看着看着就上头了,停不下来。
6 ) 来讨论下波鲁纳雷夫吧~~
JOJO这个动画让人嗨到不行,一口气从幻影之血追到了黄金之风。今天就来聊一聊法国甜心简·皮耶尔·波鲁那雷夫吧!PS:有关于第五部黄金之风中波鲁纳雷夫的剧透。
星尘十字军中的每一个人都各有独特魅力,但最让我在意的是骑士波鲁纳雷夫。由于被迪奥控制身心,出场时与承太郎一方是敌对的;在恢复自由意志后,出于复仇的考虑加入了星辰十字军,在日本到埃及这一段漫长艰辛却热血的旅途中,与承太郎一行人一起,构建了一幅犹如开辟丝绸之路史诗一般的壮美画卷。下面说一说印象深刻的几个点吧~
他是苦行的战士,并非神赐的天才。波鲁纳雷夫是天生的替身使者,曾经出于某些原因去修行剑术十年,银色战车的威力有很大一部分是由于波波自身剑术的加持。在遭遇赛特神替身攻击身体缩小回到幼年时,银色战车也退化回了幼年形态。波波的青春是与银色战车相伴的青春,虽然与白金之星、世界等强大的替身相比,银色战车的面板并不出色,但波波自身的努力让他自己和银色战车成为了最优秀的的战士。从剧情中可以看出,他对战车也是相当自豪的。比起天生神力,我更佩服波波这种苦行僧的精神,在战斗中不断磨练自己,不断成长,也许这更符合一般人对于成长的定义。
第二个点是他的行李袋。他没有家人,在星辰十字军的征途当中,他走到哪里都带着的是一个不大的行李袋。应该是那种脏兮兮的小袋子,不然也不会在新加坡被警察误认为是随地乱丢的垃圾而罚款。
漫画与动画一样都只有关于波波行李的特写。我想,花京院、承太郎与乔瑟夫都有家人且财力雄厚,去埃及那么远的地方肯定是准备妥帖的,至少行李箱是结实轻便耐用的;阿布德尔不知道经济实力如何,但他是乔瑟夫的同伴,想必也不会寒酸。波鲁纳雷夫除了妹妹以外没有亲人,一个旧行李袋伴随着他复仇的旅程,装着他的全部家当。不知道为什么会有些心酸,除了复仇,除了星辰十字军的朋友,波波拥有的东西就是可怜巴巴的小袋子。乔瑟夫买了辆豪车,波波直接被震撼到了,贫穷限制了波波的想象力··· · ·剑士的生活艰苦朴素,每次看到关于波波行李的细节,私心里还是希望他与世界的联系能更紧密一些,让这个善良的法国骑士拥有更多,再次拥有家人,不再背着行囊四处流浪漂泊。
这个行李袋还出现在波鲁纳雷夫与承太郎、乔瑟夫的告别时刻。在机场,承太郎问他是否愿意到日本来共同生活,波波拒绝了。他说,法国毕竟是自己的祖国。我想,流浪并不是波波最想要的生活,即使亲人不在了,他也想回到祖国去,对出生、成长的地方还是有着深厚的眷恋。让人欢笑最多的波波背着他的旧行李袋,就这样重新踏上了孤独的旅程。
还有一个细节是波波不小心用自己没洗过的内裤包扎了伤口,懊恼万分。看到这里觉得又好笑又让人心疼,波波真是个粗线条,出行在外估计很难照顾好自己吧!他本来有机会与埃及大姐姐有一段浪漫的缘分,但他选择了离开。背负着沉重使命的他,不想把任何人再牵扯到命运的纠缠当中。在征战结束后波波没有回去找她,选择了孤独一生,他知道自己的能力和关于虫箭的调查会连累到身边无辜的人。他本可以选择归于平淡过上平静温馨的生活,但他没有,我想,这也是波波超于常人的伟大之处,把对正义的追求作为毕生的理想,用一生去证明什么是真正的骑士。
也许有人会说,与波波相比,承太郎和他的白金之星岂不是更引人注目,更容易给家人带来危险?我的理解是这与他们两人的个性、经历有关。承太郎在替身觉醒前都过着幸福的家庭生活,物质与精神上都是富足的,白金之星是本人意志力的体现,就是一个无敌的欧拉欧拉面板;而波波的一生都在不断地失去。剑术修行时失去了妹妹,征讨迪奥时,阿布德尔与伊奇为了救他而牺牲。对一个善良的人来说,这是他一生难以承受之重;虽然这并不是出自于他的主观故意,但生命的代价太过沉重,尤其是阿布德尔救了波波两次,伊奇以一种壮烈乃至惨烈的方式死在波波眼前。波波不是不够强大,而是他所面对的一切太过于凶险,以往失去亲人、朋友的经历又带来了创伤。在在红海的小岛遇上审判替身,他故意为难审判,许愿妹妹复活。当“妹妹”出现时波波惊讶、不可置信到欣喜若狂,当他发现“妹妹”在痛苦地“活着”,幻想所带来的浓重的情绪吞没了他,愧疚、怀念、悲伤··· · ·他放弃了抵抗,。(这样看来阿布德尔实际上救了波波不止两次。)最后他在阿布德尔的帮助下重燃斗志,面对并接受妹妹已经死亡的事实。珍贵的东西一旦被打碎就再也难以挽回,接二连三的破碎会让人失去再接受的勇气。
这样的人生未免太过沉重,所以当坐着轮椅、神情肃穆的波鲁那雷夫出现在《黄金之风》时,无数的粉丝感到心酸心疼,星尘斗士中弹幕喊的“波波”再也喊不出口。曾经的波波那么欢乐,那个时候的他是队伍里的搞笑担当,观众看着他的经典片段忍俊不禁喊他波波小天使,法国甜心。但第五部只有悲壮和沉重,失去生命,失去陪伴他的战车,灵魂只能寄托在替身乌龟的空间里。太沉重了,命运的荆棘缠绕着他;但他绝不是命运的奴隶,他从未放弃抗争,也有付出一切的努力。他不像承太郎那样无敌,却最让我感动、心疼。第三部之后,不知道波鲁那雷夫那个行李袋还在不在他身边,不知道承太郎会不会再见到波鲁那雷夫,不知道波鲁那雷夫最终获得的平静会不会让他感到幸福。在热情组织,在乔鲁诺和米斯达的身边会让他有归属感吗?
浪漫、坚定、勇敢、心直口快的剑士啊,我衷心希望你的生命中多一些幸福。
补充一个心直口快但温柔的波波~
暂停学姿势的时间又到了
漫画第三部上半,未进入埃及之前的旅程,终于开始塔罗牌命名的替身攻击了,充满想象力,我是觉得比波纹战斗有意思多了,OP和ED都特别棒,空条承太郎是我最喜欢的JOJO,特别高光一下第14集送别安的那个时刻【我就偷偷脑补安是承太郎女儿妈妈了哈】!你们只看到JOJO在装逼,就没看到JOJO有多优秀吗!
幾乎完美
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作为2乔厨实在受不了3乔那个装逼样,不过也许单纯是因为ONO的缘故。战斗方式改变以后各种智斗梗越发有趣了。看完这季的感觉是JOJO家历代都是土豪啊!有钱真好,2乔快点嫁我我不在乎你70岁!承花快领证快快快!平子你摘了鬼畜眼镜还是那么骚!屌爷我们明年一月不见不散!
西天取经终于到埃及啦!!!一月再见!!
波波的不妙冒险。指定配角:jo太郎
二乔智商随年龄增长而逐渐归零……心塞
突然觉得如果没有替身……乔瑟夫应该能秒杀dio吧,不过讲真,替身战斗要比用波纹战斗有意思不少
有几处漫画中的神来之笔表达得还不是很到位,最后的几集拖时间也相当丧心病狂,不过相对这些,这次动画化把一些漫画缺失或是没仔细叙述的地方都给了一个能让观众接受的交代,制作组负责的态度也是十分不易...下一季有好几场精彩的战斗戏码,之前的旧版OVA诠释得相当成功,希望明年的TV版不要掉链子...
不能取代上一代很皮的那个二乔
看完Jojo其他番的男主全都成了娘炮
一想到可爱的波波后来变成了老乌龟,我就流下了两行泪。一想到卖鱼强最后为了女儿变成,呜呜呜呜呜呜呜。
其实我认为DIO唯一的人格魅力只在于第一部里说的那句充满人性光辉的 “我不做人了,jojo”,其余时候他都是一个中二的话痨基佬。
本來覺得這部沒有前2部好看,但是!我還是給了5星!因為!我喜歡上波波這個逗逼了!!!腫麼辦! ⁄(⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄
能做出来就无话可说了 不遗余力毁声优 还原原作这方面无可挑剔 不过后半稍微有点拖:倘若原作只够一集半 那便一定原创/拖成两集 上季虽然大刀阔斧砍剧情 但显得紧凑得多
九九八十一难的一带一路沿线国家旅游指南,DIO真的是很贴心的反派boss,怕对方的人数不够强行塞队友,加强人才队伍建设,怕对方队伍练度不够细心安排小怪让主角团升级练技能,提高团结互助建设,高歌《我们的队伍向太阳》一路杀到DIO老巢。
花花还可以再活半年!!!!
星塵鬥士是jojo最無聊的一部,超能力設計粗糙的無從與四部後當成同一系列,劇情情節照抄B級片抄得沒完。會用這一部跟我舉例jojo有創意的讀者,我實在懷疑他們是看得太少還是愛得盲目?但顯然動畫組也是夠盲,曾將一二部靈活改編的手腕不再,盡是照版宣科與三秒一卡的打戲。只能說先天不良,後天難行。
承太郎和花京院典明分明是对情侣人设,原著里还不明显,动画里一览无余,作者有心了。五星因为我喜欢花京院典明这个角色。把写在别处的搬过来做个补充说明吧——有些设计很隐晦也很有意思。承太郎水瓶座,替身却是速度和力量型的白金之星。花京院狮子座,替身却是柔韧和冷静型的绿之法皇,两人技能完全和自身特质相反却符合对方特质。而水瓶和狮子是对宫星座,在恋爱中被认为是致命吸引却又容易给对方造成伤害的关系。花京院第一次出场是直接伤了承太郎的腿,而最后是花京院揭开了迪奥的秘密,牺牲自己传递了信息救了大家(其实就是承太郎)。在动画 ed 里承太郎和花京院是隔着冥河彼此相望,而花京院的围巾则和承太郎的衣服的颜色一样即紫色。类似的细节还不止这些。