片中的一對父母,在得知儿子是gay以后,第一個想法就是,儿子可能會受到的种种威脅,努力要保護自己的儿子,不讓儿子“出柜”(即公開承認自己是同性戀的事實)。他們當時的心情是复雜的,他們對自己的孩子,只是本能的愛護和接納,但是內心深處,恐怕還是認為這是罪過,是原罪中的原罪(sin of the sins),其內心的矛盾和痛苦可想而知。但隨著時間的推移,他們對圣經中的教律越來越感到質疑,他們覺得,自己的孩子和別的人沒什么區別,都是善良正直的人,為什么卻被上帝認為十惡不赦?他們努力去尋找其中的答案。他們買很多有關同性戀的書,了解他們的看法;他們咨詢醫學專家,主要是心理學專家,了解到同性戀主要是先天遺傳決定的,并非后天的個人選擇;最后,他們去圣經中尋找答案,去尋找上帝反對同性戀的切實證据,結果卻驚訝的發現,這一切都是后人的誤讀,或者是別有用心的解釋。從此,他們澈底地接納了自己儿子是Gay的事實,并且努力鼓勵儿子勇敢地公開承認,并投入了為同性戀者爭取平等地位的斗爭中去。
對待圣經的正确態度,片中一位牧師說得好,我們關心的“不是圣經告訴了我們什么,而是我們從圣經中讀到了什么。”(not what the Bible says, but what the Bible reads)圣經是一本書,其內容受到了其歷史、社會、文化環境的影響,現代人在看圣經的時候,要接合自己當時所處的歷史環境,做出正确的解讀。圣經中很多戒律,是遠古時期的產物,有其自己的合理性,但未必适合當今的社會。信仰圣經,并不是逐字逐句的去遵守,而是要掌握理解其精要。圣經,或者說基督教的精要是什么,核心就是——愛。關愛自己,關愛別人,無論其种族、貧富、性別、取向,愛所有的人,這才是宗教的意義,這才是圣經要傳達的東西。
这部纪录片最让我动容的,是通过几个实例一遍遍的告诉我,父母能为自己的儿女做到何种地步——“we love her, no matter what she is. it's an unconditional love,and so i love her unconditionally." 作为一个无神论者,我一直相信父母才是我的世界中最伟大的神,带我到这个世界上,养育我,最后告诉我无论我是什么人无论我做出什么事,他们都会永远爱我,他们会因为我的幸福而感到幸福。我还没有出柜,虽然这看似遥遥无期的时刻每次想到都是一种煎熬,但是我却无比确信的知道,如果这一天真的到来,不管过程如何,结果定会是父母再一次的让步,就像他们一直以来的那样。
"Homosexuality is NOT a choice, I don't think anybody, in their right mind, would choose something that would invite hatred and misunderstanding and death."这些道理难道真的需要付出生命的代价来说明吗?
1.The Bible is not what it reads, but what it means.
2.Lies sound like the truth when they are told thousands of times.Those who believe in them simply don't have a strong faith in the truth.
3.God loves everyone. Those who can't tolerate or love their neighbors don't really understand the message from God. Although I don't believe in God, still I believe it is love not hatred that makes us live.
4. It is not a life style that can be chosen or changed. It is the life! Our life.
5. "For the Bible Tells Me So", " For the Others Tell Me So"...Sometimes, we need to believe in what we truly feel---FOR MY HEART TELLS ME SO.
It is not the best documentary among what I have seen. But it is the one that touches me so deep.
No stars for this one( Not allowed by the system.)
6 ) 《孙海英与吕丽萍的家庭影院》
Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexuals are doomed to spend eternity in hell. If they wanted to change, they could be healed of their evil ways. If they would turn away from temptation, they could be normal again if only they would try and try harder if it doesn't work. These are all the things I said to my son Bobby when I found out he was gay. When he told me he was homosexual my world fell apart. I did everything I could to cure him of his sickness. Eight months ago my son jumped off a bridge and killed himself. I deeply regret my lack of knowledge about gay and lesbian people. I see that everything I was taught and told was bigotry and de-humanizing slander. If I had investigated beyond what I was told, if I had just listened to my son when he poured his heart out to me I would not be standing here today with you filled with regret. I believe that God was pleased with Bobby's kind and loving spirit. In God's eyes kindness and love are what it's all about. I didn't know that each time I echoed eternal damnation for gay people each time I referred to Bobby as sick and perverted and a danger to our children. His self esteem and sense of worth were being destroyed. And finally his spirit broke beyond repair. It was not God's will that Bobby climbed over the side of a freeway overpass and jumped directly into the path of an eighteen-wheel truck which killed him instantly. Bobby's death was the direct result of his parent's ignorance and fear of the word gay. He wanted to be a writer. His hopes and dreams should not have been taken from him but they were. There are children, like Bobby, sitting in your congregations. Unknown to you they will be listening as you echo "amen" and that will soon silence their prayers. Their prayers to God for understanding and acceptance and for your love but your hatred and fear and ignorance of the word gay, will silence those prayers. So, before you echo "amen" in your home and place of worship. Think. Think and remember a child is listening. ---《天佑鲍比》
在线观看:
http://weibo.com/1762509182/eDjenktfxhq
moved
很好的记录片
我一生都无法想象,上帝会说: 我惩罚你,因为你是黑人,你本该是白人。 我惩罚你,因为你是女人,你本该是男人。 我惩罚你,因为你是同性恋,你本该是异性恋。 我永远都无法相信上帝会这样看待这一切。
咦,最近又上榜了。////“上帝不会因为我们是黑人,本应是白人而惩罚我们;不会因我们是女人,本应是男人而惩罚我们;不会因我们是同性恋,本应是异性恋而惩罚我们。”——觉得自己圣洁到可以用石头砸死“罪人”的人手握利器,自称以宗教的名义去杀人,这才是真正的鬼上身。。。
虽然有那么多感人的地方,我看完最大的感触还是:研究前现代的人真命苦,拼命解释文本还没人听。其实我们就是拿来“作背书”的,会听这些人讲解圣经的人,大多本就不恐同,只需要一个专业的解读来告诉他们为什么圣经不能成为恐同的依据。在权力面前,知识是脆弱的,而这个时代的权力,就是钱。
總會有自以為掌握了真理的人 把宗教調教成邪教 將良民教化成暴民 也總會有以為領悟了真理的人 到處為民除害 把人間煉成地獄
unconditional love
整片的基调在开头的2分钟就奠定了,不过,谈论这件事情的角度,很值人深思。大民大众的分辨能力还是很重要的,不然,还是学学广电总局,如何过滤信息吧!
i feel thankful that God has change my heart,has transformed me into a person who loves unconditionally
这样对比下国内的父母反而会更显的宽容无私一些。。。例如我妈
我只是厌倦了Bible 和 homosexual 的辩论……
“上帝不会因为我们是黑人,本应是白人而惩罚我们;不会因我们是女人,本应是男人而惩罚我们;不会因我们是同性恋,本应是异性恋而惩罚我们。”
“我穷尽一生都不能想象上帝说‘因为你是黑人,所以我要惩罚你。因为你是女人而不是男人,所以我要惩罚你。因为你同性恋,所以我要惩罚你。’”
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/UPoJkZlEP9g/
我是无神论者,但我认为爱和包容才是《圣经》的内涵,也是这个世界所有人内心所期待的。
编排得不错
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/UPoJkZlEP9g/
"我穷其一生都无法想象上帝会说出这样的话——我将惩罚你,你是黑人,你本该是白人;我将惩罚你,你是女人,你本该是男人;我将惩罚你,你是同志,你本该是直人。"——"要对我们手里这本紧握的圣典倾注更多的谨慎,它谈论的是爱与善,却为暴力、压迫、不公提供最有力的辩护,它是武器、是工具。"
一个gay推荐的,讲的是偏执的宗教(基本上是基督天主一类)家庭是如何改变对同性恋的态度的,23‘’的时候,有亮点。。。另外,在线不好找,这里有个地址~ http://zhiliao.in/for-the-bible-tells-me-so/
爱不是错误。宗教信仰反而被曲解,被使用作为行恶的辩护工具,这才是罪恶。