第12届#法罗岛电影节#无人知晓单元第8个放映日为大家带来《女教徒》,下面为大家带来前线痛苦修女们压迫无比的评价了!
墨夜轩:
如果后半段没有那么赶会更好。
RIVER:
结局是必然的结果,但通往这个终点的路走的太快了。
果树:
虽然拍法高级,但实在不是一个观赏起来很亲民的电影。
法罗岛帝国皇后:
宗教的权威性和强制性断绝了信仰的合理性,生意里金钱最重要,把主义做成生意,哪还有底线。
我们敏熙:
竟然是一部“快速电影”,剪辑干脆,细枝末节砍得一干二净,留白颇多。古典故事中注定毁灭的命运。
格系艺人:
压抑,绝望,镜头压迫着角色的同时也压迫着观众。导演的节奏越后面越赶,但与此同时绝望感愈加猛烈。
子夜无人:
从一个牢笼转移到另一个牢笼,人物始终挣扎在久远的禁闭中从而失去了时空性,在屏幕上反复出现了不断扑空摔倒在地的动作,像一种千锤百炼的拷问。清规戒律是酷刑,温柔呵护是觊觎,施以援手是占有欲,摆上台面是小玩意,唯有纵身一跃,才能了结循环往复的悲剧宿命,此生终于分明。
Bboard19920313:
雅克·里维特这个该死的导演一个猛子撞在我枪口上,上届《不羁的美女》我就已经对他没什么好印象了,哪知道这次竟然让我更加抓狂。他真的能把一个本来的无聊的故事讲的更叫无聊,没有了优美画作的本片让人更加难以忍受,外搭上演员一言难尽做作无比的“神级”表演,以及我今天真的很累很累,我宣布再也不看他的电影了。
#FIFF12#DAY8的无人知晓场刊评分将在稍后为大家释出,请大家拭目以待了。
18世纪的很多贵族会把女儿送进修道院成为修女以保持女儿的贞操,这样在以后的联姻中可以保持或抬高身价。苏珊娜就在这样的背景下被母亲强制性的送到了修道院。但苏珊娜是悲惨的,虽然父母也是贵族但苏珊娜并不是他们亲生的,父母的亲生女儿是苏珊娜的姐姐,所以苏珊娜得不到任何遗产,而且家庭经济上的困难也是她被抛弃的原因之一。她恳求母亲不要遗弃她,但无论多么卑微的示弱和祈求都无法动摇母亲的意志。苏珊娜是善良的,她放弃了哀求。至此,她只剩下两条路:要么成为修女,要么无家可归。苏珊娜无可奈何的成为了修女,噩梦就此开始。
苏珊娜忍受不了宗教对自己身体和思想的禁锢,以及修道院压抑人性的氛围。她渴望自由,她奔腾的意志驱使她成为了修道院里的“坏孩子”。她迟到,晚归,缺席祷告,托朋友帮忙寻找生父生母,找律师试图用法律的手段让自己活得自由。这在教母眼中是不可原谅的,所以她被体罚,被其他修女排挤,唾弃,诬陷,殴打,被停止食物供给。在精神和肉体双重折磨下,奔腾的意志逐渐干枯。同时生母的来信告诉她生父已死,生母也生活窘迫,苏珊娜彻底失去了希望。在律师的帮助下,苏珊娜转移到了另一个修道院。新的教母对她非常友善,这种友善让苏珊娜感受到了久违的安全感,她开始变得平静顺从。可渐渐的这种友善和亲密开始越界。教母在与苏珊娜相处时有了很多亲昵的行为甚至要和苏珊娜一起睡觉,并且每时每刻都在缠着她。显然,教母是个同性恋。苏珊娜很害怕便把事情告诉了神父,神父在夜色下翻墙把苏珊娜偷偷救出了修道院。可苏珊娜都还没来得及感谢,神父突然变了个人似的企图强奸苏珊娜,在陌生人的帮助下,苏珊娜偷走了。她无家可归,无路可走,寄人篱下做着女佣的工作。又因为不好的名声被辞退。走投无路的她成为了街边的乞讨者,无意中被富婆看中,带着她参加了一个上流社会人士举办的淫乱酒会。苏珊娜面对眼前的一切和自己无望的生活,跳楼结束了自己凄惨的人生。
这是一部对宗教和人性进行猛烈批判的电影。整个故事都在压抑黑暗的氛围下行进。善良,单纯的苏珊娜在“上帝无处不在”的修道院里见识到了人性的黑暗,她忍受着上帝子民的傲慢和迫害。她如同尼采的化身用奔腾的意志证明上帝已死。
English Title: The Nun
Original Title: La religieuse
Year: 1966
Country: France
Language: French, Latin
Genre: Drama
Director: Jacques Rivette
Screenwriters: Jacques Rivette, Jean Gruault
based on the novel by Denis Diderot
Music: Jean-Claude Eloy
Cinematography: Alain Levent
Editing: Denise de Casabianca
Cast:
Anna Karina
Liselotte Pulver
Francine Bergé
Micheline Presle
Jean Martin
Francisco Rabal
Christian Lénier
Yori Bertin
Pierre Meyrand
Charles Millot
Marc Eyraud
Gilette Barbier
Wolfgang Reichmann
Michel Delahaye
Rating: 8.1/10
Catching Jacques Rivette’s THE NUN on the big screen pays great dividends, restored in its pristine luster, the film is among three films screened here in Shanghai to commemorate the diva of Nouvelle Vague, Anna Karina (1940-2018), another two are Godard’s VIVRE SA VIE (1962) and A WOMAN IS A WOMAN (1961).
Initially banned for its scathing anticlerical ridicule and opprobrium, THE NUN is an adaptation of Denis Diderot’s novel, and Rivette’s second full-length feature. During 135 minutes, it relates the story of Susanne Simonin (Karina), an 18-year-old girl of the mid-18 century, who is railroaded into nunhood by her bourgeois parents, because she is a bastard (a secret her mother tries to keep from her unwitting husband) and the family has no money left for her dowry, sending her to the Almighty’s calling seems to be the only option, although it is plain specious.
The crux is, for Susanne, devout as she is, she feels that she has never received the calling from God. Her eventual vow-taking ceremony is conspicuously omitted on the screen, and reckoning by the reactions of her mother (Lénier) and Mother Superior Mme de Moni (Presle, ever so graceful and compassionate), something is certainly amiss there. Later Susanne claims that she has no recollection of the ceremony, perhaps she was in a fugue, witnessed by many, that fact could have been graciously taken as a testimony of revoking her vows had the church assumed a more liberal attitude towards its devotees. So one can see that it is religious orthodoxy, not Catholic church itself is the fair game here.
Susanne possesses an innocuous, inexperienced soul, her idée fixe is that she cannot be cloistered in a convent because she is not qualified for that kind of devotion. She is not “enlightened”, neither secularly nor spiritually. When she is taken as the new favorite of the sapphic Mme de Chelles (Pulver), she is none the wiser to understand it is the carnal urge in the play (not until she is illuminated by the priest who listens to her confession, the “mansplaining” avant la lettre), nor could she survive in the secular world, as it is equally, if not more sinisterly, cloistered.
It is overt that the part after Susanne finally escapes from the convent is fast-tracked (encapsulated in less than 10 minutes), as if Rivette suddenly registers that time is running out. But previous to that, audience have undergone a Manichaean rollercoaster of a ride that segues from the high-handed oppression under a cold, stern, authoritative Sister Sainte Christine (Bergé), who succeeds Mme de Moni as the new abbess and cruelly persecutes Susanne for her recalcitrance, to the utter vivacity, chipper sorority stemmed from Mme de Chelles’s governance, like Susanne, we viewers also cannot believe our eyes, how mischievously cunning is Rivette to stage-manage such an about-face (including the modulation of its palettes) to taunt the church’s disparate improprieties!
Karina is at the top of her game here, grittily buckles down for Susanne’s ordeal and is most pathos-invoking in her heartfelt cri de coeur, bedraggled, miserable, baring her heart out and kneeling down to a ruthless superior. Bar Sister Sainte Christine, can any human being stay unaffected by such a soul-shattering emotional plea? That said, Karina’s brilliance is somehow dimmed when Pulver makes her appearance, her handsy Mme de Chelles is a delightful outlier of all the prior characters, an archetype of lesbian nun which would be vilified, mocked and exploited in lesser hands. Yet Pulver plays her with such a facility of earnestness that is in tandem with Mme de Chelles’ superficial frivolity and benevolence, and when her infatuation brings her downfall, our giggling slowly freezes and what gels is something less definitive, she is between the butt of a joke and a tragic figure tormented by her inner demons, Pulver is fantastic from A to Z. Concurrently, Karina’s Susanne takes a back seat as a perturbed virgin, like a scare-easy bird, her integrity is the sole lifeline she can hold on to, which foreshadows her denouement. Viewed today, Rivette’s exceedingly watchable cause célèbre is neither scandalous nor sacrilegious, if anything, it might aid to rectify the church’s abiding Procrustean canker.
referential entries: Rivette’s WOMEN DUELLING (1976, 7.3/10), CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING (1974, 9.2/10); Luis Buñuel’s VIRIDIANA (1961, 8.2/10).
有许多东西未充分表现出来,可能是演技欠缺,也可能是里维特缺乏独特的阐释,技术是正常的,但在此类题材中实在算是平庸之作,无甚夺人之处;里维特可能只想靠结尾来挽救他这部拍得非常短的冗长作品
Mon dieu, pardonne-moi.
4K LUNDI 11 JUIN 2018, 20H00 SALLE HENRI LANGLOIS En présence d'Anna Karina, Micheline Presle, Francine Bergé et Véronique Rivette;Restauré en 4K au laboratoire L'Image Retrouvée par StudioCanal et La Cinémathèque française, avec le soutien du CNC et du Fonds Culturel Franco- Américain – DGA-MPA-SACEM-WGAW.
几乎全是远景啊,连张特写都没有
Father/father。Mother/mother。加註開場。個人自由。各種權力的施展。wedding gown,修女服,化妝舞會(dressed again!)。收尾加速。難得敘事線單純的李維特…
2021007 上海影城。虔诚信仰上帝,上帝却从未感召,遑论眷顾。世界宛如一个大的修道院,阶级的压迫从未停止,处处充满权力的政治。
3.5 真觉得狄德罗这部小说该给布努埃尔拍。跟2013版相比,Anna Karina真是完胜Pauline Etienne,其他所有角色都是陪衬,安娜的眼神又纯真又放荡,表演真心赞啊。2013版是配角更出彩,女主太稚嫩。“永远不要怀疑一个真心爱你的人”这句话简直人生最大欺诈之一。
个人认为这部片子最绝的地方在于女主人公这种极力想要摆脱被当作性符号消费的命运到了不惜自杀的地步的纯真坚定的女性形象正是她无心侍奉的宗教所推崇的圣女形象,这一点在宣誓仪式上体现得尤为明显:誓言中要她为上帝守贞,然而华丽的婚礼礼服却彰显着这个献祭仪式的性意味——多么绝妙的讽刺。
艰涩的丰收,里维特回顾展快点来。
想到文本是出自狄德罗的小说,就有趣味多了。狄德罗不仅是百科全书派代表,还是法国大革命里的一个重要人物。法国大革命之于路易十六时期的风格,新古典主义之于洛可可,想来文本无非是号召民众回归一种更具moral(道德感),其实并非是反抗宗教,更多是一种呼吁社会重构道德风潮,回归宗教信仰,对忠贞德行的一种赞美。对照,同时期萨德的《纯洁的眼泪》,就更有对照的意味。总之,电影很好地还原了狄德罗笔下的那种新古典主义的简洁之美。想来在68前夕拍摄这样主题的电影,法国社会处于一种风云变幻时代,当时年代重新对文本的解读,也显得有趣。安娜的表演也让女主显得可信。回归到文本,suzanne这个名字在神话里,也是纯情少女被老男人色诱强奸或者被偷看洗澡的女主,似乎从狄德罗为女主取上这个名字时,就注定了一场道德悲剧。
影城1厅。4.5/5,字幕机一塌糊涂但片子真棒,一个虔诚到不愿假装calling的灵魂,如何被抛入规训的修罗场,如何以精神的纯真,暴露身为女性的“原罪”——没有成为主体的选择,只能是服从、把玩、训诫的客体。即便从修道院的实体走出,修道院仍然作为隐喻,投射在社会结构,“这件长袍已经深入骨髓了”,这种视野当然是历史性的,所以会有不断的牢笼构图,压抑的室内机位,风声鸟鸣的环境声,以及满篇灰冷中律师出现时的暖色。但安娜又演出了“故事”的肉身,是我看过她最有深度的角色,同时像是异教徒、诱惑者和受难的圣徒(感觉只有阿佳妮能演出来),无人与她同道,因为她试图选择不存在的选项。
女主太好看了!
★★★☆
活生生的一部恐怖片,卡里娜惊艳演出,电影不经意间从一个地狱到另一个地狱,里维特让时间快速地缓慢流动,摇镜中尽是绝望和无力,直到一切的感觉都消亡。
同名小说改编 虚伪慈母、变态虐待、不伦禁恋三座牢笼 盟友背叛、笞刑苦难、前路昏暗 被迫侍奉的天主 从来只是教廷禁锢人性的手段;4K修复 部分场景博洛尼亚的调色处理直逼恐怖片
他是说,世界上已没有地方适合一个自由的灵魂,想安静地爱上帝是徒劳的。
好看,甚至觉得这个时长不是里维特的正常操作,导致最后四五十分钟太赶了,以至于使用了很多粗暴的剪辑让人跳戏嘛,有种写作文洋洋洒洒几大段!准备收尾了发现格子没有了的感觉… 好像还是第一次看里维特如此线性叙事的很“正常讲”的故事吧,最后一个修道院的故事有点御法度的味道,内心的挣扎、信仰的飘渺、突然闯回失联已久的世界让结局成为必然。安娜卡里娜确实漂亮,是不是拍完这个和美国制造就和戈达尔离婚了…
很美~几番挣扎最后还是这样的结果,是宗教害了她吗,是欲望害了她吗,亦或是她命该如此。。。
Un très beau (grâce à l'image et la beauté de l'actrice principale) film avec pleins (tout au long du film) des gestes faux, et des émotions/dialogues/décorations((surtout la déco- les rideaux de fenêtre) )/jeux d'acteur non principal contestables.
In memory of Anna. 来自狄德罗原著的对宗教与社会的"控诉"多半都是观众想当然的臆断;所谓影片前半拖沓而结尾加速的说法更是天大的误解. 里维特真正发动了一场叙事的革命:最富戏剧性的、对人物命运起着决定性作用的情节实际上都被隐去了,上一场和下一场之间省略的部分甚至足以再拍出一部电影来,我们仅能从只言片语中做些揣测;可被理性分析的"有理(rational)点"在戏剧时空的连续统内是如此稠密,可与无理点相比又是多么不值一提! 全片一直处于这种跳跃状态,故而整个剧作始终有布列松似的语焉不详之感. 单个场景内动作的剪辑点总被压缩、提前或滞后,造成一种断裂的突兀效果,配乐则带有武满彻似的日本味道(联系《巴黎属于我们》的印度风配乐). 对这部杰作的淡忘是不可原谅的.