这是一个多线性叙事方式拍摄的电影,讲述伊拉克战争的哈迪赛镇之战。事实上,这根本不是一场战斗,而是屠杀。影片分别从美军视角和伊拉克平民视角两条线推进剧情。残酷又冷静。美军士兵癫狂情绪被重金属音乐嘈杂的蹂躏在一起,伊拉克普通民众的愁苦卑微以及不可控因子还在按部就班的日常生活中默默延续。影片对哈迪赛镇之战持否定态度,但毕竟是老美拍的,有局限性,一定程度上美化了自己,比如现实中美军占领下的伊拉克民众生活应该更加凄苦不堪,美国士兵也根本没那么彬彬有礼。表面上看哈迪赛镇之战是被炸弹袭击激怒,更深层的原因难道不是一直以来的蔑视与仇恨吗,不然怎会对平民和儿童下手。战争让士兵痛失兄弟,令百姓失去亲人,每一方的痛苦都如此真切,造成这一切的始作俑者又是何人。电影有点闷,不喜欢这个题材的可能会看不下去。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Haditha
Battle for Haditha (film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
Haditha killings
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65 out of 83 people found the following review useful:
Powerful & Provocative Film, 12 November 2007
8/10
Author: Black Narcissus from Maida Vale, UK
I saw this film at it's London premiere at the Odeon West End as part of the London Film Festival.
I guess Nick Broomfield was getting sick & tired of seeing Michael Moore ripping off his Documentary style so made this his Second feature film in as many years. Like the earlier film, Ghosts (
www.imdb.com/title/tt0872202/), the Battle for Haditha is based on fact.
The film tells story of the events of November 19, 2005, when a troop of US Marines exact revenge for an earlier attack which killed one of their number in the Iraqi town of Haditha.
The Film focuses on three different viewpoints, the first of Iraqi insurgents, which in this case isn't some mad Mullah but an old man, who we learn is an ex-Army officer and his son. The second focuses on a Corporal Ruiz, a young Marine who you feel wants to be anywhere but Iraqi and the finally the film focuses on a young Iraqi couple and their extended family.
The film is shot Cinéma-vérité style and at times is very harrowing. But it's to Broomfields credit that he to my mind he doesn't simply demonize the US soldiers. Instead you get to understand how young men put in a situation that you the viewer couldn't understand let alone cope with, could just lose it after a comrade is killed. Likewise, in the films portrayal of the insurgent fighters Broomfield manages to make you think what would you do, if, as in the film, your a professional soldier made jobless by a an Occupying force. How do you feed your family, and wouldn't you feel some resentment to the occupation forces for making you jobless. But it's in the Iraqi families, caught between the US forces and the Insurgents that the film is at it's best. They can't do the right thing for doing wrong. It is they who bear the brunt of either Insurgency retaliation or US Forces heavy-handedness. They who ultimately will and are the losers in Film.
This is a powerful film which deals with all aspects of the problem fair mindedly, but doesn't shy away from the truth. Don't let those who haven't watched the film put you off seeing the best portrayal of the War on Terror to date.
Black Narcissus
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71 out of 95 people found the following review useful:
Made me cry., 21 March 2008
9/10
Author: bluelionk
Made me cry.
Only issues I noticed are: That the translation of the spoken Arabic is sometimes misleading and has no relation with what they actually said.
Some of the actors' accents are not Iraqi (Palestian, Egyptian, and others...), but most are Iraqis.
It's still a great movie that shows what happens in Iraq, and that war is ugly.
It's one of the rare movies that show the issue from the other side.
The acting is great, so is the scenery (it does look a lot like Iraq).
I say it again, it made me cry, a lot.
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48 out of 75 people found the following review useful:
If You Liked Bloody Sunday & United 93, 19 September 2007
9/10
Author: Movie-Jay from Toronto, Canada
I just saw this movie at the Toronto Film Festival, and it's going to create much controversy as the weeks pass until this film finally opens. I think those who are against a movie before they even see it are saying something about themselves, not the film. Watch it, and then make up your mind. This movie, like United 93 or Bloody Sunday, is told moment to moment, keeps it's head down and just moves forward without judgment or commentary. The movie isn't aware of the past or future, it only knows what it knows through the characters we follow, some of whom are American soldiers, some are innocent Iraqi families, others are terrorists. This movie does a wise thing by simply showing things from all points of view. I can't wait until it's released because it needs to be talked about.
At the premiere for the film, we learn that many of the actors on the American front are actually soldiers who fought in Iraq. The head of the platoon is especially good, and could go on and have a career as an actor.
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30 out of 41 people found the following review useful:
A story that needed to be told, 13 August 2008
8/10
Author: insomnia from Australia
It's almost impossible to be totally objective regarding a subject about which one is truly passionate. The war in Iraq is a subject that divides people like no other in recent times. As with any conflict, the war in Iraq has its supporters and its detractors. There is no middle ground. There are no grey areas: everything is just black or white. Either you believe it's a justifiable war, or you don't. This brings me to Nick Broomfield's new film, "The Battle For Haditha". The subject of the film is controversial as it deals with an incident in the city of Haditha, allegedly involving the US Marines. Broomfield uses actors, some of whom are former US Marines and Iraq veterans, as well as Iraqi refugees, to fashion a film that successfully straddles the gap between a regular documentary and a straightforward feature film. The film encompasses three points of view: those of the Marines, the insurgents, and the families who lived near where the roadside bomb detonated. This film is a fictionalised account of what actually happened at Haditha. It shows quite graphically, the horrors of war and what the Americans as well as innocent Iraqis have to go through almost on a daily basis. There are deaths on both sides, but it's Iraqi civilians who are caught in the crossfire and who have to bear the brunt of dealing with men who have been stretched to breaking point. The film in no way condones the actions of either the insurgents or the Marines. It just shows the audience what might have occurred on that fateful day, and it's for those in the audience to make up their own minds as to who was in the right and who was in the wrong. When reading some of the comments posted on the message board for this film, I find it somewhat puzzling that some contributors write that "Battle For Haditha" is anti-American. Just because the US Marines are shown in a less than sympathetic light in this film, does not mean the film is on the side of the insurgents. What the film does demonstrate is how quickly things can get out of hand, in a situation such as that in Haditha. By all means criticize a film on its merits, or lack of them. Please, though, do not label this film as un-American just because it doesn't fit a blinkered view of the way the world is.
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26 out of 39 people found the following review useful:
better than i expected, 1 April 2008
8/10
Author: SEVEREcritic from Bangladesh
i personally never heard of Mr. Bloomfield, so i had no real intention of watching this film till i saw it mentioned in the message boards for other films. that said, i must say this was the best in the recent slew of Iraq war films (like Redacted, Home of the Brave, etc.) i half expected it to be like Redacted and was pleasantly surprised to find it much better. i think it really brought out the fact that there are multiple sides to a story, and did so without too much bias. being a Muslim myself i must admit that it seemed a little inclined towards Iraqis, with Marines portrayed as undisciplined and emotionless (though one of the protagonists feels guilt and in reality this incident caused an uproar). there are no A-list actors, which in a sense, actually made the movie better because you almost see the actors as the characters themselves (especially since a lot of the dialog is improvised). i think it was well made, and well thought out. better than expected. i wonder what the US reaction would if/when it has a release there? unlike Moore's work (as stated by another user here) neither party is shown as completely innocent or completely evil. i'm not sure if this is exactly how the incident took place, but if it is, then there is certainly some food for thought in this movie.
就这片子还能看出反战意味来?还有说士兵和平民都无辜的,圣母这个词转为你造的,真是佩服。从战略上讲这tm是洗衣粉战争,是侵略战争,从战术上讲这是对手无寸铁的平民单方面的屠杀,跟主反省两句,流下两滴鳄鱼的眼泪,象征性的被追究下责任,就洗清罪恶了?拍个电影都要拿反战当遮羞布,美国佬最近打脸已经打出新高度了,你把他以前说的话说一遍都相当于在骂他。
战争就是这样一个人性的黑洞,它逼迫你放弃代价高昂的准则,以换取失去了意义的胜利。
伪纪录片形式。真实感强烈。美军高层和伊拉克武装分子们虚伪的打着各自的幌子而让他们的同胞——前线的美国大兵和伊拉克平民成为无辜受害者。漫漫长夜你们何以安心入睡?
老百姓从媒体、教科书上看到的是什么?是事件。是媒体甚至政府想告诉你的事件,是不是真相?真不知道。运气好的话,过一阵或者过几十年,水干了,露出一些河底的真相,运气不好,观众永远做傻子。你以为朝鲜人的智商很低,整天为金正恩哭天抢地?他们只是国家教育下的傻子,我们若在那个地方,也一样。
想起了南京大屠杀,全世界人民都应该看清美国的嘴脸
对比1999年的《夺金三王》,2007年的《哈迪赛之战》。前者是部喜剧片,对萨达姆军队的贪婪残暴戏谑调侃,伊拉克百姓喜迎天兵。后者是部严肃纪实的电影,突出了美军的残暴猖狂,伊拉克人对美军充满敌意,游击队对美军不停的袭扰让其精神崩溃。拍这部电影的时候还在调查阶段,直到2012年参与屠杀的美军只有一人被判九十天监禁(没执行),其他人无罪,伊拉克部分死者每人陪了两千五百美元,有敌意的死者未获赔偿。
过于的追求技术上的真实与视角的全面,反而显得缺乏真实,而流于表面。
美军禽兽不如
伊拉克哈迪塞镇,I.D.E工厂..IDE使陆战队车队一死二伤,失去兄弟的MC疯狂了,接下的搜索任务中15名伊拉克平民无辜死去。被幕后黑手煽动的伊拉人纷纷拿起步枪,造成平民死亡的陆战队员们也面临审讯...这场战争到底谁错了?值观?宗教信仰?谁最无辜?伊拉克人民?士兵?当权者之间的矛盾导致了这些悲剧
好的战争片,最终表达的应该都是反战的。这部电影更像是一种还原,对真相的重新演绎,对战争的重新反馈,对平民的重新伤害。战争中受害最深的永远是陷入深渊的无法找到出路的平民。这个村子的人,在看到所谓的恐怖分子埋炸弹时,不敢告诉美国人,因为如果被叛军发现,注定是死。但不告诉美国人,就发生了影片中的担忧,他们作为最无辜的人被失去理智疯狂报复的美国人击杀。无法博弈,在这场战争中没有任何逃命空间。而恐怖分子是,真正的叛军雇来的市民,他们对两边都是无所谓的状态,都讨厌,却会为钱卖命。事实就是这样,人执行命令,人受到伤害,人疯狂报复,人无辜被杀。政治,社会,意识,就这样混乱。而这一切,还是乱入的战争。
阿拉伯人的命就比美国人贱吗?路边炸弹这么多是阿拉伯平民造成的吗?那些滥杀无辜的美国陆战队员有错吗?复仇复仇,杀戮杀戮,这样的恶性循环,错在何人、何处?
这两帮人天天都要把人脑打出猪脑才算完,却还要生活在同一个城市中,伊拉克到底是一个怎样的国家啊。
真实事件改编,借用伪纪录片风格、去类型化地还原了美军在伊拉克的治安战困境,更具象的体现了家园置身于战火的悲剧,极尽冷峻纪实,让观众看到了是非对错一定程度上处于模糊地带的真实战场,美军和恐怖分子相互地袭击、报复、仇杀,结果付出最惨重代价地却是被无辜裹挟其间的普通人:平民看到恐怖分子埋炸弹却不敢报信给美军,因为怕恐怖分子报复,但攻击一旦成功,他们就像片中那样被失去理智的美国大兵无差别的杀戮,连老幼妇孺都不放过,他们唯一错的就是自己的国家成为了战场,没有任何逃生的出口,甚至连搞恐怖袭击的都不过是极端分子花钱雇来执行任务的主儿。而美军士兵杀人没得洗,但他们也不过是帝国掌权者谋取政治经济利益的工具,敌意像螺旋一样上升,真正的刽子手坐收渔利,战场的真相任强者涂抹,真正的元凶,却从头到尾都没露面。
以后下完电影一定要先过一遍看字幕完整不完整,我下的这个版本大概50分钟左右就没有字幕了,幸好战争题材台词成分比较少,还是能看明白个大概,我挺喜欢这种强调纪实性的电影,没有过分英雄化任何人,真实的揭示了战争给人们带来的灾难,有反思,有警示,你不杀人,人就会杀你,就这么简单。
无解的悲剧,每个人都身处其中,都觉得自己的是无辜的。事实却是别人利益博弈的棋子,既是受害者也是施暴者,没有人是无辜的。
仇恨滋生仇恨,冤冤相报何时了?战争是泯灭人性的苦难,不义的战争是苦难的巅峰。交战双方那些为了个人利益不顾他人死活操纵民众、士兵的政客和煽动者是最可恶最该死的!拍得很真实很震撼!给战争下了一个绝佳的定义
279 常看到很多人自豪的说,没当过兵的男人不是真男人,或许从动物本能天性来说确实如此。美利坚海军陆战队算是世界上最牛皮哄哄的兵了吧,是男人就下一百层,地狱
其实就感情而言十分理解美军在战争中犯下的错,还算不上罪行。毕竟战争本身就是残酷的,会将人逼疯。身处在其中也多身不由己,把问题拿出来大家一起解决而不是隐藏才是解决问题方法。
也算是比较中性的角度,对伊拉克的普通人、极端主义者,对美国陆战队的士兵、将军。尽管不能得到所有的全面的comment,这种多角度考虑的尝试总是有利于世界和平滴,卡卡
这片让我想起《鬼子来了》。当年抗战时,民众真的像宣传的那样很支持游击队打仗吗?小老百姓只想活着罢了。顺便吐槽一下短评顶最高的一条,平民不一定无辜,高官不一定冷血,而冲在前面的也不一定都是被洗脑的傻逼。